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IT IS TIME TO TAKE SIDES
During almost 12 years the repeater has been up, I have been keeping it apolitical. But Putin has gone batshit and UVB-76 radio station is a weapon. So, while I keep translating it, you are welcome to also watch the Ukrainian news channel '34 Kanal' to see, what kind of events this signal is actually participating at today.
Slava Ukraini!


DISCLAIMER: I have no association with UVB-76 station, neither do I have any clue what is the content I am relaying. I can only assure, that the signal is received on 4.625MHz about 300km NW from supposed origin and retransmitted unaltered. In no way can I guarantee this service, nor be considered responsible of any content re-transmitted. The only purpose for this relay to exist is because lot of people who do not have equipment or are located too far from station seem to be interested about listening to it. Note, that because of shortwave radio signal propagation specifics the station is not always audible

Tuesday, August 24, 2010

August 23, 2010 9:35AM PST Voice transmission confirmed

I hate to pour more oil on this fire as there are steady 60+ listeners on stream already, but streamer arhive recordings show that the August 23. voice transmission is genuine and has happened! Please find the recording here.
Most received it garbaged, as the transmission was taking place almost entirely on upper sideband (USB), as most of the normal UVB-76 transmissions are. (Although it is not pure USB, as the carrier is present).

212 comments:

  1. Can we get a translation of the voice transmission?

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  2. UVB-76, UVB-76 - 93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74 - 9 3 8 8 2 nikolai, anna, ivan, michail, ivan, nikolai, anna, 7, 4, 1, 4, 3, 5, 7, 4 - (repeated twice)

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  3. And yet you don't believe mine /:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSJeG772RQQ&feature=channel

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  4. "naimina" is probably "na imena" which means "on names".

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  5. Notice that the name given spell out NAIMINA.

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  6. Dang, Missed it. good thing I am not the only one listening to it over the weekends and whenever I get a chance at work.

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  7. Hope someone who knows russian better than me confirms it, but they are reading the numbers different from print.

    "UVB-76, UVB-76 - 93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74" is read as you see, where the numbers are stated (eg. ninety-three, eight hundred eighty two, ...)

    The rest of the numbers are read as positions (eg. seventh, fourth, first, fourth...)

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  8. 7.18 - 7.19 pm MST, heard around 26-30 short, loud buzzes above the initial buzzing. Pulse time was around half a second. No idea what this was. Very out of place.

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  9. Oh shit! So it is really happening, and even before 2012 and after the Iranians got nuclear power!

    I'm so glad i'm living in europe now!

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  10. I've been listening to this all day today as soon as I heard about the new messages, haven't heard anything weird, but I have heard the static enter weird patterns. Not sure what that was all about. =/
    Anyways nice feed going here, I will continue to listen in.

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  11. Hearing some sort of extra noise @ 940pm (for 20 seconds?) over normal pulsing. Same tone, repeating faster than normal pulse, almost like a needle scratching a record.

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  12. you need to realise that distortions of the sound occur(esp during different times of the day), you may think you are hearing something different in the signal, but odds are your the distortions are playing tricks on your ears. It is still the same old signal. Unless you heard something very VERY odd and have tools to dissect the audio, I would just nevermind it and chalk it up to the ionosphere.

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  13. @Matthew
    Yeah this could be true, but I have been listening to this almost all day, and there have been beats (rather statical rhythms), at certain points Also, the beeping is getting unusually loud, I have had my speakers up all the way, and it got to the point of me turning it all the way down and hearing the same quality as when it was all the way up.

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  14. @Joseph the volume issue is happening for me too. Never heard it this loud before.

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  15. @Matthew: I don't have the recording/analyzing tools running at the moment, but I know it wasn't just atmospheric noise. That said, some powerline, or generator or cell phone ring or UFO or other constant, repetitive singular repeating sound was heard (940pm EST). That said, I do suppose most changes from "normal" is ionosphere "noise".

    @Joseph: @thunder:
    Me too. Volume seems to be changing here. I haven't been listening for a long time, but I've noticed it too. We'll see where it goes. All sorts of crazy reasons that could change.

    Is anyone recording/analyzing this and able to monitor trends, etc? I'd think a computer could simply record and notify when something was abnormal. (pardon my ignorance).

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  16. @eddie
    No I wish I had that on the computer I am currently running on, I am going to begin recording changes with the broadcast though, as I am typing this though, the beeps are getting louder.

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  17. @Najboljerakija

    Hmm,never knew that...

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  18. Related - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout

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  19. @Nathan: How is this currently related?

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  20. WOW! I stop listening for ONE day and then I miss THIS! What luck I have haha, thanks for the recording. That was rather weird, so that makes it the fourth interruption to date, right? Wow...crazy!

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  21. its amazing that no one has figured out what it is... I think its a coded message, and that whoever breaks it, is either a super genius, or simply holding the cipher... I need a super genius!

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  22. this seems to be the only relevant part of the message: "93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74 ", the following is simply a checksum on the data, stating each char phonetically. this is partly mentioned in above posts, but notice the numbers are also spoken individually during the phonetics .... 9, 3, 8, 8, 2... 7, 4, 1, 4, 3, 5, 7, 4, which mirrors the 93 882, etc.

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  23. 74.14N 35.74E
    google map search puts that at barents sea.. plausible

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=74.14N+35.74E&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.456673,86.572266&ie=UTF8&ll=74.496413,75.058594&spn=29.524281,173.144531&z=3

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  24. this is so fantastical. i hope an ex-kgb comes on to tell what its all about before we are terminated

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  25. Call me a doom sayer but if we for a moment suppose that UVB-76 is part of dead hand and these voice signals are a test protocol / orders then it cant be a coincidence that the massive spike in activity occurs at the same time Iran gains nuclear capability and atomic tension is at it's highest since the station came on-line...

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  26. Could be related to this? Maybe they are target coordinates for a missile launch?
    http://www.barentsobserver.com/russian-anti-aircraft-missile-training-in-barents-sea.4811241-116320.html

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  27. I've checked the numbers and yes, they are coordinates and I believe they are related to the Russian military training in the Barentsz sea. But why address that particular station when the know that people around the world are listening in?

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  28. Just found this whole radio station 30 year buzzing mystery on a blog site and have been really interested.

    I wish you lot the best of luck in working on this Russian Riddle and ask you to keep doing what you enjoy - for the good of all us x-filing, Spy wanting, UFO believing, cryptology, mystery enamoured, amateur radio guys!

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  29. пиздец - война

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  30. @raptor But why address that particular station when the know that people around the world are listening in?

    just to fuck with us?

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  31. naimina = Nikolai, Anna, Ivan, Michail, Ivan, Nikolai, Anna

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  32. Если нужно было бы определить назначение станции, то сделали бы так:
    1. Установили устройство радиопомехи.
    2. Недалеко спрятали видеокамеру.

    Такие проверили бы результаты:
    a) если станция очень важная, то источник радиопомехи найдут очень быстро. По тому, кто за этой аппаратурой радиопомехи приедет можно определить кому принадлежит станция - военным или гражданским.
    b) если назначение станции малозначимое, то источник радиопомехи начнут искать не сразу, а через время.

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  33. Станция может быть или "калибровочной", поэтому время от времени корректируют основные показатели, поэтому так не часто. Или тестовым полигонов для радиошифровальщиков. Может быть под землей находится какая-нибудь сверхсекретная лаборатория по экспериментам над людьми, поэтому такие жуткие звуки в начале. Но если рассмотреть события, то недавно в России:
    a) обвинили румынского дипломата в шпионаже.
    b) недавно арестовали российского ученого, который хотел что-то продать иностранцам.
    Если эти события связаны, значит назначение станции весомое, и "оживление" станции были результатом смены кодов шифрования. А произнесенные в эфире прямым текстом слова не что иное как сверка результатов всеми секретными точками результата расшифрования сообщения на предмет верности смены кодов.

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  34. Станция может работать на очень малых отклонениях периода, поэтому кажется, что станция
    "одно и тоже" передает, то есть "жужжит", а на самом деле она постоянно передает данные - двоичные единицы и нули "прячутся" между периодами.
    Проверять нужно с простого:
    a) работают ли на станции люди.
    b) подвозят ли их подземным секретным метро для профилактических работ.
    с) какой режим работы станции, сколько раз там за все время работы пропадало электропитание.
    d) персонал живет на станции и ходят домой.

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  36. "buzzing", but in fact it is constantly sending data - binary ones and zeros "hidden" between periods (taken from Сергей's last post) Is there any way to check this? i doubt the Russians would be so stupid to send out Raw binary.

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  37. Hey there,

    Found this blog from a link somewhere - exciting stuff for a computer geek like me :)

    Genuine question now: How do you guys monitor this feed? You can't spend all your time listening to it?!

    Does it get recorded and analysed for spikes / changes in volume?

    Cheers!

    Matt

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  38. Purpose: The command and control. The radio channel for the transfer orders of Staff and signal a single time.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20030414090619/http://www.geocities.com/uvb76/uvb76.html

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  39. can a russian with a talent for english translate the above posts? they look important...

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  40. If it's a true numbers station, then you won't be able to crack it without the original one-time use cipher.
    Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station

    If it's really a numbers station broadcasting to spies in the area, it would be unwise to broadcast your sleeper-cell activation message in plain text (i.e: "Hey, agents... time to do the job!")... better to randomly shift some characters forwards and some backwards so anyone listening wouldn't have a clue.
    Or... maybe it's just there to lure people out to the Barents Sea so they stay away from the real items of interest.
    Or... get enough people in boats out in the sea and launch a missile at them.
    Could really be anything. Maybe a burst data transmission with the voice issuing the encryption algorithm.

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  41. Above Сергей's posts are delusion, nothing more.
    It's reserved military station for commands to stuff with emergency situations. "buzzer" used by listeners (stuff) to check signal level. If signal too bad (not listen "buzzer" sounds), stuff should inspect reciver.
    Nothing interesting here.

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  42. Sergey said ...
    If you want to be identified destination station, it would have done so:
    1. Install the unit radio interference.
    2. Nearby hidden camera.

    Such results would be checked:
    a) if the station is very important, the source of radio interference will find very quickly. As someone who for this jamming equipment arrives we can determine who owns the station - military or civilian.
    b) if the appointment of minor stations, the source of radio interference will not look right, but through time.
    August 25, 2010 3:19 PM
    Sergey said ...
    The station can be either a "gauge", so from time to time adjust the key performance indicators, therefore it is not often. Or test sites for radioshifrovalschikov. Perhaps under the ground is some sort of Top secret lab for experiments on human beings, so these scary sounds in the beginning. But if we consider the events that recently in Russia:
    a) Romanian diplomat accused of spying.
    b) recently arrested a Russian scientist, who wanted something to sell to foreigners.
    If these events are connected, then the appointment of the station weighty, and "recovery" stations were the result of changing encryption codes. A spoken on the air directly, the words are nothing more than verification of the results of all the secret spots result decrypt messages for the change of allegiance codes.
    August 25, 2010 3:25 PM
    Sergey said ...
    The station can operate at very small deviations of the period, so it seems that the station
    "Same" passes, ie, "buzzing", but in fact it is constantly sending data - binary ones and zeros "hidden" between periods.
    Check with a simple need:
    a) Are the people at the station.
    b) ride if their secret underground metro for preventive maintenance.
    c) what mode of the station, how many times there for all time wasted power.
    d) staff live on the station and go home.

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  43. Since the servers here are full at the moment, a Justin.tv user also has a live stream up: http://www.justin.tv/rampageturke#/w/340896016

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  44. Could someone please answer the damn phone?!

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  45. zzzz...arter pounder with cheeseski...zzzzz....pickl....

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  46. (-74.14383645829001, -144.26834106445312)
    Antipode of the co-ordinates. Always related somehow. Question everything...

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  47. 12:49pm EST

    Sounds like a conversation in the background (behind the buzzer) for a few seconds, then movement, then back to the regular buzzing.

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  48. Uhm, Coincidence?
    http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/340929,probe-death-mi6-agent.html

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  49. 93 882 = azimuth and range? maybe from 74.14N 35.74E?

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  50. Can someone tell the position of tghe message in the 20 minute file? I´m not in the mood of listening to 20 minutes buzzing...

    btw mirror: http://filesmelt.com/dl/recording1-21-47-len.mp3

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  51. at arround 1pm EST i could here what sounded like voices in the background behind the buzzer

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  52. Если рассмотреть вариант смены кодов из-за компрометации шифро-ключей, то если на станции было мало таких "оживлений" в эфире, то просмотреть по материалам того времени в диапазоне тех дат, что станция оживала, были ли подобные события, связанные с шпионами.
    Если станция старая, то значит оборудование там скорее всего тоже не новое, то скорее всего назначение этой станции не очень важное. Такие открытые вещания в эфире могут быть как направление по ложному пути для разведки.
    Хотя, скорее всего после распада СССР советские полковники и генералы кгб, все уже рассказали зарубежным разведкам, и об этой станции в том числе.

    Хотите найти ответ на этот вопрос - спросите у своих спецслужб :)

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  53. ymax99 asked about a link above. You can use google to translate it:

    http://translate.google.ca/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20030414090619%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocities.com%2Fuvb76%2Fuvb76.html&sl=auto&tl=en

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  54. Don't know if anyone else caught it earlier, but there is an archive page for this transmitter station... Apparently it has the Assignment of "Tool Usedoevogo management. The radio channel for the transfer orders of Staff and signal a single time."

    http://web.archive.org/web/20030414090619/http://www.geocities.com/uvb76/uvb76.html

    If you use Google Chrome, it can translate the entire page for you. Has some interesting photographs, too.

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  55. Just heard morsecode 2 minutes ago... it was quiet, but clearly audible.
    Right now again!!!

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  56. heard the morsecode too! it sounded like the same message repeating between the buzzes, really hope someone can piece it together and decode.

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  57. Yeah, i still hear it between the buzzes too. Faint, but there for sure. Hope someone is recording this?

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  58. Серега, прекрати выдавать секреты Родины.)))
    Оборудование может быть старым (например на лампах) не только потому что станция заброшена, но и для обеспечения работоспособности в случае ядерного удара: при взрыве в ионосфере возникают электромагнитные излучения и вся электроника построенная на полупроводниках выходит из строя. Лампы в таком случае выживут и сохранят работоспособность.

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  59. Я пишу через переводчика, мои извинения.

    Эта часть станции имеет выключатель мертвеца, или это - просто военная станция ретранслятора?

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  60. Мэттью, да, эта станция имеет выключатель, но мертвецов на самой станции нет.
    Мертвецы находятся на седьмом уровне, в зоне 34, под станцией. Там большое задымление. Именно поэтому станция заработала в голосовом режиме 23 августа.
    Мои извинения, я пишу не через переводчика.

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  61. 4882000:
    О! Это имеет полный смысл ко мне.

    Сколько уровней - там? Я думал бы, что любая секретная военная установка будет иметь по крайней мере 42.

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  62. Matthew: почему именно 42? по моим сведениям там их всего 15. каждый уровень разделен на 6 зон.)))

    сегодня кстати станция передавала еще один сигнал: http://rghost.ru/2438110
    3 8 5 2 7 АККРЕЦИЯ 3 6 0 9 5 6 7 3

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  63. Currently someone is speaking in the background, its fairly faint and you pick up the voice only sometimes, and just before the voices a door was opened and closed. 4:08 PM EST, door or something opened, maybe pages shuffling around. Voices heard again as well as a low screech noise of someone messing with a radio tuner dial. Voices may be a radio... if that is the case and with all the recent activity, someone has been posted to the base indefinantly.

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  64. voices US eastern time 4:10 pm about is when it started

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  65. Anybody else just here a tiny little clip of orchestral music?

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  66. @misfit

    Sounds like a radio or tv I agree

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  67. There is definitely TV or radio in the background.

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  68. All of the August 25th updates on the wikipedia page were erased suddenly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76

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  69. @ thomas
    just saw that.... wonder why, tv or radio is loud right at the moment

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  70. web.archive.org/web/20030414090619/http://www.geocities.com/uvb76/uvb76.html

    u need just translate it from russian

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  71. 4882000:

    42 - ответ на значение жизни. Плохая шутка на моей части. Есть ли что - нибудь еще, что мне разрешают спросить, или это должно только быть понижено теперь? Я не хочу оскорбить.

    Теоретики заговора наслаждаются этим видом вещи, и я признаю, что это привлекло меня в, также.

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  72. Cute, Radio Station music in the background Arizona time ~2:37pm 8/26/2010 some light chatter as well, maybe from a radio nearby.

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  73. There is a lot of music going on, most likely interference. But why is there so much going on at once?

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  74. Darnit, I need to Setup a Virtual Machine with the stream running and Audacity recording it. Unless someone else has some other tools for Direct Stream copy?

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  75. The message from the 23rd: UVB-76 — 93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74 - when you put in 74.14 as latitude and 35.74 as longitude it's in the barents sea in Russia.

    The message from the 25th, when put in as latitude 36.09 and longitude 56.73 it's in Iran. Russia is planning missle testing in the Barents sea from what people are saying and Iran just started up a nuclear program...

    just saying, it's a theory.

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  76. If you look at 36.09N 56.73W it's Cancun

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  77. Maybe the guys operating the station are planning a long overdue vacation.

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  78. http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-08/25/russian-numbers-station-broadcast-changes

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  79. Is the new message recording ( http://rghost.net/2438110 ) really full of trojans? I didn´t sownload, as i have o AV software installed, but listened to it online, it seems legit.
    Anyone can confirm?

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  80. @eule, I'm hesitant to download it, but where did you listen to it online? I can't find it anywhere else.

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  81. There´s a flash player on the link i provided. :)
    I´m uploading the file to virus total ai write.
    Even wiki deleted the link due to trojans (probably read the many comments saying: Trojan! Don´t download!!!)...
    But message sounds interesting.

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  82. @eule: It's legit. I listened online and it's fine

    @Thomas: Go to that site, and you'll see a bar underneath the file details that let you use the online player.

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  83. Just got back home to listen to the stream ... When did the buzzer go off? Now there just seems to be static.

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  84. @Matthew: The buzzing stopped about an hour, nearly an hour and a half ago, it went from really loud then faded off randomly. been static ever since.

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  85. It slowly faded away at around 22:10 UTC IIRC. The German radio sound stopped at 22:00 UTC, though I have no idea if it was actually in the signal or interference.

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  86. it sounds like it is slowly fading back in

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  87. file is clean :D according to:
    http://virusscan.jotti.org/de/scanresult/12c457f42602f5c1c608bfe7378a167c00268490
    Wonder why so many scream trojan?!

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  88. http://soundcloud.com/djoutcold/uvb-76-aug-23-2010-9-32ampst
    mirror of the livefilestore mp3.

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  89. Can anyone confirm the 25th 'Accretion' voice broadcast actually occurred? I see warnings it's a hoax and the rghost site has trojans. I looked at the site, IE warned me immediatley it was unsafe, and I saw the user comments posted there saying so. There is also a warning on the wiki page and some guy posted a warning on the facebook apage.

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  90. purpose: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://web.archive.org/web/20030414090619/http://www.geocities.com/uvb76/uvb76.html

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  91. Search youtube.com and UVB-76 then sort by date.
    2 uploads so far. can we confirm these are Legitimate? Not some joke from /x/?

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  92. mirror to alleged Accretion recording:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?tyo15683rpbmr9r

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  93. I've been checking out the rghost site at work ... IE only threw a warning when I got home.

    We have a ridiculous firewall at work. It would've shut down the site stupid fast if it was actually infected.

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  96. Better version of Jochen's link (no translate needed, the guy maintained an English version of the site): http://web.archive.org/web/20091027003813/geocities.com/uvb76/

    If you look up the other stations he mentions, the "Pip", Plavets-41 "R", and Riabina the "Squeaky Wheel", you'll see that they all have roughly the same voice message mode as UVB-76:

    The Pip: http://www.brogers.dsl.pipex.com/page7.html
    Plavets-41: http://www.cvni.net/radio/nsnl/nsnl048/nsnl48ms.html
    Riabina: http://www.cvni.net/radio/nsnl/nsnl107/nsnl107vm.html

    My interpretation: freak out about this as much as you'd freak out about EAM messages http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/eam.html

    (i.e. Don't.)

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  97. They actually happened, I am a "witness". Last night was one of the most crazy nights for this broadcast.

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  98. I was taking notes on the incidences. I did read somewhere that this is an open mic facility, and I did hear goings-on in the background as well as numerous glitches, timing issues, strange periods of quick buzzes, and audible data. (I'm not sure if the data is from the server or the transmitter)

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  99. http://76.174.127.138:8000/ mirror of the USB stream. 16 users.

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  100. There is morse code and some strange tapping happening right now. 11:02pm EST
    I am recording it.

    I also have a bunch of other recording of other morse and strange things at http://tinyurl.com/uvb76

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  101. 9:10 - 9:11 pm MST series of 60 strange scratchy blips like that which was heard last night

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  102. подтверждаю факт того, что здесь: http://rghost.ru/2438110 НЕТ ВИРУСОВ. сам скачал и прослушал все внимательно.
    Есть кто нибудь, кто сомневается?

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  103. Naimina is a forest in Kenya if you reverse the numbers in coordinates you get a location in Niger. Cheers

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  104. Эта станция - супер современное психотроннное оружие русских. (8-X)

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  105. @ 4882000
    Я определенно не сомневаюсь, что все это знакомо, я прислушиваюсь к питанию в течение 2 дней, сейчас, после первых сообщений не найдено. Я, например, не знаю цели, но есть такие сумасшедшие вещи продолжается уже, и я слышал хорошие кусок его!

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  106. @Сергей
    Что за оружие, хотя?

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  107. "Серега, прекрати выдавать секреты Родины.)))
    Оборудование может быть старым (например на лампах) не только потому что станция заброшена, но и для обеспечения работоспособности в случае ядерного удара"
    Ламповое оборудование оно к тому же еще очень мощное. При сравнительно простой схеме получаются мощные и по вольтамперным характеристикам шумов сравнимы с транзисторной техникой. Поэтому там, где нужно передать большие мощности в эфир, используют как правило ламповые оборудование не смотря на то, что на дворе XXI век.

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  108. "сегодня кстати станция передавала еще один СЛУЧАЙНЫЙ сигнал:" :-))))

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  109. "3 8 5 2 7 АККРЕЦИЯ 3 6 0 9 5 6 7 3 " то они своим зомби сигналы передают на очередное задание, значит где-то еще в мире будет какой-то катаклизм. Или под землей в мантии термоядерных бомб разложили и теперь по разным позывным сигналам активируют их. Потом снова землетрясение, цунами и все снова в потопах, пожарах и т.п.

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  110. "3 8 5 2 7 АККРЕЦИЯ 3 6 0 9 5 6 7 3" или то русским солдатам не заплатили, вот они в эфир открытым текстом коды к ядерным ракетам и диктуют. 8-)

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  111. Look here
    http://kspzel.livejournal.com/73231.html
    You wil see the pictures of UVB-76

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  112. "Joseph @Сергей Что за оружие, хотя? "
    Военные русские всегда перлись на какой-нибудь сверх шизофрении, особенно спецслужбы типа кгб. Они там все мозгами "повернуты" были, а на фоне антиамериканского воспитания, которое прививали приходящему к ним на службу поколению, они что угодно могли сделать, особенно на теме восприятия.
    "Нет ничего более труднее, чем понять бессмысленность."

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  113. "fastfoodest said...
    Look here
    http://kspzel.livejournal.com/73231.html"
    Я так и думал, как обычно все ржавое ни на что денег нет, никому ничего не нужно "ото как есть ну и куй с этим всем, наливай". Что не смогли продать осталось ржаветь.

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  114. А может в этой станции задача была эфир глушануть если что? То есть те 10кВт это чтобы не беспокоились, а на самом деле может и намного больше давать в эфир?
    Я думаю с этой станцией все проще - экономический фактор. Например, вы что-то построили, вложили денежные затраты. Но значимость станции утратила со временем и чтобы станцую ликвидировать требуется снова сделать затраты на людей, технику для демонтажа и т.п., а в СССР и в России с правильными затратами всегда были проблемы. Вот и получается, что самое выгодное по деньгам/затратам - ничего там не менять и не трогать, ото как она столько лет пикала раз в несколько секунд и пусть пикает дальше. Пока она пикает, пусть все думают, что станция живет и служит важным целям.

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  115. @Сергей
    Я понимаю, как они считают американские страны, но почему так долго ждать, чтобы сделать что-то об этом?

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  116. Я вижу здесь наверно и из Америки есть посетители, скажите объясните Обаме, что НЕЛЬЗЯ на месте разрушенных торговых центров строить мечеть - "Сначала мы разрушили их торговые центры, а потом на этом месте построили мечеть", то есть, "ислам наступает и диктует правила". С этой мечетью в будущем много проблем может быть. Для ислама в борьбе с неверными любые средства хороши. Сначала они построят мечеть, а потом эта мечеть будет поводом разного рода противостояний и возни.
    Нельзя давать исламу поводов, и один из них это мечеть. У Америки много врагов, и те враги, что по влиятельней в мире, они будут за таким странами как Иран вести свою политику. Сначала они им дадут атомные технологии, потом оружие и когда Иран будет достаточно вооружен начнется война, ядерная. И в этой войне победит та третья сторона, которая вела войну через Иран.

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  117. Ислам нужно отдалять, и средством отдаления их является лишение возможности какого-либо присутствия в виде организаций, собраний и т.п. Обама не очень умный политик. Если он думает что можно приехать в кремль и все сразу будет как он захочет. Америку в кремле ненавидят скрытой ненавистью и это не изменится. С исламом нельзя заигрывать и давать им повод суваться в страну.

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  118. The station is very old. This means that it works with no semi-conductors - only diode and triode lamps. Some of you knows that each lamp needs a time to get a full capacity. And that is the reason why the station casts "buzzzz" everytime - cause switching facilities ON or OFF (when an extra situation caused) takes a lot of time.
    PS: Don't read Сергей's posts trough google translator - he uses in speech a lot of rare russian words and very difficult word expressions. Google (or another translator) cannot translate it correctly

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  119. Нас самом деле все очень просто:
    Военные передают сигнал на короткой волне, это способствует хорошему прохождению сигнала на дальние расстояния. сигнал состоит из цифр и букв. Часть сигнала - шифрованное наименование воинской части или подразделений войск. Другая часть сигнала - данные о необходимости проведения определенных действий.
    Дежурный приняв сигнал передает его по цепочке наверх, командиру части. Тот в свою очередь смотрит относится ли сигнал к нему или нет. Если да - тогда действует согласно инструкциям, если нет - матерится на солдата и посылает его нахуй.
    Если говорить совсем уж честно, то такие передачи организовывают не только русские. Вот ссылка на торрент-файл с записями англичан, французов, и прочих народов мира: http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/3941337/The_Conet_Project-Recordings_of_Shortwave_Numbers_Stations.3941337.TPB.torrent

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  120. без торрентов: http://www.archive.org/details/ird059

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  121. fastfoodest:
    "buzzzz" - это просто маркер, чтобы однозначно настроит приемник на нужную частоту и не уходить с этой частоты.

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  122. 04:37 CDT, and all is quiet from the stream, except for minor bumps and blips...which might just be happenstance...

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  123. UVB-76 is nothing more but a radio station designed to transfer orders from the central node of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces to the launchers, after which UVB-76 makes a feedback about the operation back to the central node. Each of them have a code table consisting of various words, phrases and archaisms (as we saw earlier, like "Bromal") that are used to detect the type of missile they're going to launch, as well as some other factors.. From 1997 to 2003 there were over 20 of voice transmissions, so it's not likely they are rare, it's just the fact we've jumped to late in the bandwagon. It's also nice to notice that UVB-76 doesn't use voice transmissions exclusively, but it also uses data streams and Morse to carry on orders to trainees and launchers.
    You mystery has been solved.

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  124. Do people living in the area ever report seeing human activity around where the station broadcasts from? From aerial photography of the area, there are clearly numerous residents in the area.

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  125. upper sideband stream still mirrored at http;//cloudp.ath.cx:8000/ add it to vlc or itunes, winamp seems to have issues with it. that's not a weblink.

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  126. Did anyone hear a short fizzing/hissing sound just then? and no i dont mean static =/

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  127. Chill guys. Here is the internal photo of UVB-76 today:
    http://urban3p.ru/blogs/message14941

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  128. Looks like S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-game screenshots

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  129. "fastfoodest said... Chill guys. Here is the internal photo of UVB-76 today:
    http://urban3p.ru/blogs/message14941 "
    Посмотрел я фото по ссылке... и вот что думаю, там скорее всего залило водой станцию, они пока откачали воду что смогли, и станцию сразу запустили, и для проверки пошел открытый текст на предмет проверки работы в эфире.
    Почему я так думаю:
    1. На фотках хоть и бардак, но стены чистые, при долгом влажном залеже воды(если снимали бы что-то старое и ложное) стены были бы по-грязнее.
    2. Коробки с под картона чистые и сложенные на столах. Тоже не похоже что там влажность была все время.
    3. О почему-то полосами зарисовали коды на дверях. Тоже не просто так это все :)

    Подводим итоги:
    Если все обобщить, то если к станции привлекли такое внимание, то станцию могли или умышленно привести в такое некудышнее состояние типа "та это все ерунда"(иначе зачем было закрашивать коды на дверях), или на станции делается "пререстройка" или все таки потоп был. Сколько раз их затапливало водой - столько раз они и выходили в эфир прямым текстом. Должны же быть у военных на этот случай какие-то меры оповещения своих, что станция в полном потопе. И в кодах указывать какие залы, сколько воды и когда станцию готовы запустить. :)

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  130. Я все таки думаю тот открытый текст, что они передавали, это что-то из вручную зашифрованного сообщения о чрезвычайном происшествии(что станцию затопило водой) на станции. И тот мычащий звук вначале может быть нарошным звуком-помехой.

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  131. А зашифровали сообщение скорее всего какой-нибудь механической шифровальной машиной, на подобии тех, какие использовались во времена Великой Отечественной войны. Ключи к подобным механическим шифромашинам скорее всего отделены от остального шифропотока между военными, поэтому могут и такие шафромашины держать в части (как счеты когда калькулятор перестает работать). Шифромашина наверно должна быть небольшой с размером с руку, прогресс все-таки
    на улице :)

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  132. читать "шифромашина размером с ладонь"

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  133. To those posting in Russian, please keep in mind this is an English-language page. Can you please lighten the burden on all of us reading it, and attempt to translate your post before sending it.

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  134. Шифромашин там скорее всего две - одна реальная, на которой передают настоящие сообщения, вторая шифромашина бутафорская, на предмет если станцию захватят и будут требовать шифромашину и ключи, то покажут не настоящую шифромашину.
    А почему небольшого размера должны быть шифромашины? Чтобы было легче ее уничтожить. Почему уничтожают шифромашины? Чтобы если враг украдет шифромашины, то с их помощью не смогли передать ложные сообщения командованию.

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  135. Plz write in english or a translator-friendly russian, thanks! :)

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  136. I'm pretty sure everyone's been using a translator on their own. I know I have, and it's easy-peasey to do... So yeah, it's not really a big deal.

    I think if you start asking them to translate everything, they're going to stop posting.

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  137. The link posted is clearly not uvb-76. The reason why I say that is if you look at what I think is a fire alarm system panel, the shape of the building does not match what the real pictures of it are, like you see on google maps.

    It is still very interesting and creepy.

    The wiki page for uvb-76 has been updated and it aparently has been confirmed that it is for military personal to give instructions and what time to execute them.

    Kinda crazy that this exists.

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  138. background female voice right now, as if there is another radio station coming in at the same time.

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  139. >Plz write in english or a translator-friendly russian, thanks! :)

    omg! Didn't know there are such things like translator-friendly and non-friendly Russian =)

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  140. there are background voices happening right now.
    5:16pm EST.

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  141. a german tv or radio is being listened to I suppose... parts I could hear clearly ... es wird später ... ... sagen .... und ...

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  142. http://urban3p.ru/blogs/message14941

    They took down all the photos on this link. I'm going to have to find them all in my cache and re-upload them elsewhere.

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  143. do u know of a good piece of software to remove the constant buzz and leave only the background noise?? the german programme with the female voise is going with "Bedeutung ... geworden ... ... Als ..."

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  144. Ok, I was able to get most if not all of the pics from my internet cache. I am going to throw them in a zip file.

    If anyone wants these pics that are supposedly the inside of UVB-76, then send me and email

    deadlyfoez at yahoo dot com

    and I will send them to you.

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  145. Also, all the newly added info on the UVB-76 wiki page has been removed. Only a couple of things have stayed.

    Major conspiracy going on here folks.

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  146. Hello there:
    I've just upload 13 minutes of broadcating. Nothing exciting: Some static, and interferences...
    http://www.goear.com/listen/1572bf9/13-minutes-of-broadcasting-UVB-76
    Anyway, hope you enjoy.

    Greetings.

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  147. @DeadlyFoze: I think your tinfoil hat might be a little too tight, at least as far as the goings-on at Wikipedia. The stuff there that was removed just didn't fit on the page. Overall, I highly doubt whoever runs this station really cares that much about the broadcasts being transcribed, being that anyone in range of the station (or who can get a feed from a site like this) can hear it.

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  148. @id, I just sold my tinfoil hat. I've now got a brass screen hat. It's more effective.

    But really, LOL at your comment. I got a good chuckle out of it.

    No matter what, UVB-76 is weird. OK, I understand about why some of the wiki was taken down, but I still feel that it was useful info that should have been kept even if it was almost unfounded. UVB-76 has very little documentation, and after seeing that blog have all of the pics removed and that member banned, it just seems all too much funny. It was just a huge coincidence at once.

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  149. @DeadlyFoze

    Could you host those pictures on a flickr or photobucket account? That might be most convenient for everybody.
    I don't want to bother you at your personal e-mail


    I wanted to look over them again to judge if they are legit or not.
    Where did they come from? And how do we know they what they are pictures of?
    And as a previous post mentioned - they honestly do look like something from a soviet-themed survival horror move or game. Very very spooky!

    Thanks for linking us to them, and thanks for your info
    Thanks for everybody's input!

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  150. Like I said, email me and I'll send them to you. It is easier that way for me....honestly.

    Something tells me that they are not of the site of UVB-76. Read one of my earlier posts and you'll see why. (I hate retyping stuff)

    But I will send them to you no problem, just email me.

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  151. Yeah I saw what you said about that - but if they're not then what the heck are they?

    Just looking at this stuff give me cold chills, I guess the creepiest things are real and true.

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  152. See that photos at Google-cache. Type in search field "cache:http://urban3p.ru/blogs/message14941"
    (with no quotes) and that is what you whant

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  153. At 9:56 PM MDT It seems to have gone quiet, just static.

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  155. At around 10:11 PM MDT It has returned, and is much quieter. ( I have had to turn up my speakers)

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  156. If it's quiet, it might not be in the band you're listening to...

    If you're on the AM band, try switching to the USB band.

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  157. "Sergey Mortus said...
    Серега, жжешь!" а то :)
    по ссылке http://urban3p.ru/blogs/message14941 форум почитать, про "куи и доставания", видать долго ребята служат... Хорошее питание + никуда не пускают + женщин нет = армейский рассадник гомосексуализма.

    Хотя про ситуацию со станицей по линку http://kspzel.livejournal.com/73231.html все понятно было. Рисунки №2,5,6 читаются так:
    Рисунок №2 - "все старое"
    Рисунок №5 - "ржавая дыра"
    Рисунок №6 - "лужа (ржавой) воды"
    -----------------------------------
    Читаем полностью - на станции "все старое", "лопнула труба", "станцию залило".

    Вот вам и все сообщение о ситуации без всякой криптографии все открыто и понятно :)

    Солдаты, что выложили фотки, видать мобильником фотографировали, и довольно навороченным раз есть редактор закрасить номера и не показывать свои лица. :)
    Вычислят их фсб скорее всего быстро и даже могут посадить. Ребята-солдаты, читающие данный форум по мобилке, эту мобилку вам нужно уничтожить или поменять в магазине торгующем мобильными телефонами на такую же модель телефона!!! Или мобильник с пушки выстрелить. Или в кислоту кинуть, а потом закопать остатки телефона.

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  158. Хотя достаточно симкарту молотом размельчить и потом сжечь остатки, и чип который в телефоне обязательно тоже уничтожить! Если по мобилке Хотя достаточно симкарту молотом размельчить и потом сжечь остатки, и чип телефона обязательно!
    В чипах есть внутренние заводские номера, они пишутся в логах у операторов и везде где гуляет трафик телефона. Если мобилка была с выходом в инет то сетевой чип тоже нужно уничтожить, там MAC зашит. Чтобы не гадать проще уничтожить телефон полностью. Телефон можно и новый потом купить, а свободу и время - нет.

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  159. К тому же открытый текст шифровки при чрезвычайных проишествиях - это единственный способ в кротчайший срок оповестить максимальное число объектов, завязанных на данной станции. Чем передать в генштаб сообщение, а из-за какого-то охламона в штабе оно может задержаться в результате все замедляется по цепочке, а это дорога к проиграшу в военное время. Поэтому вынуждены в чрезвычайных ситуациях передавать открытым текстом фишрограммы о проишествии на станции и что достоверность сигнала становится ниже и с ошибками возможно, поэтому или переключатся на резервную радиостанцию или будут ждать.

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  160. И еще что касается не профессиональной армии, как в России. Когда в армию заставляют служить, то берут всех подряд, без разбору, в результате тех условий, что есть, человек дает две клятвы:
    a) Родине, как написано в красной папке.
    b) Себе, в виде "ты меня, дорогая родина, при помощи армии два года "раком" ставила(имела), я тебя, дорогая родина, буду иметь и ставить "раком" всю оставшуюся жизнь".
    И после этого человек начинает "класть" на устрои и быт общества, и всяческими путями разрушать неправильное в виде продажи военных секретов, через передачу приходящему поколению где что можно своровать, каким образом и т.п.
    В результате, вроде бы и страна большая, и ресурсы есть, а живем как голодранцы, занимая в мировых рейтингах предпоследние места.

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  161. А что касается военного гомосексуализма в НЕ профессиональной армии, то можно смело подавать в международный суд на правительство. Причинно-следственная связь есть - до армии был нормальным, в армии был закрытый образ жизни, деформация восприятия, человек стал гомосексуалистом. В животном мире есть такая особенность когда меняется пол, для продолжения рода, для баланса мужской и женской части. То есть, все определяют условия. Эти условия создает руководство страны, принудительным призывом в НЕ профессиональную армию. Значит, по причинно-следственной части стороны определены. Результаты медкомисии в военкомате до и после - это факты для рассмотрения дела.

    Не профессиональная армия это зло, армия это кузница криминала. Людей обучают пользоваться оружием, психологически меняется восприятие на предмет борзости. Потом люди если не могут найти работу идут или в криминал или бизнес-тсруктуры граничащие с криминалом. Так что НЕ профессиональная армия это постоянное выбрасывание денег на "ветер", из-за больших расходов по обучению новичков пользоваться оружием, техникой и т.п., техника постоянно меняется, то что знали в 60-х уже никому не нужно и знаниями они этими не воспользовались как военные. Смысл в такой армии?!

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  162. I think this is ridiculous. The fact that this stream is unreliable from a mere 900km is evidence enough that this couldn't possibly be a reliable enough means of long-range communication for military use - certainly not a part of some "dead hand". Think about it... Why shortwave radio? These days we have strong reliable public-key cryptography which works over much more reliable mediums that prevent eavesdropping. Maintaining a station like this can't be cheap - and in order to communicate inefficiently 4 times over the course of 30 years is so impractical that I can't imagine the purpose is military voice communication.

    The only thing that sounds plausible to me is that it is some sort of beacon. Perhaps it has applications in aviation? Are there any airports nearby? How about as a navigational signal to satellites, spacecraft, rockets? Could it be part of an ongoing study or scientific research project? Are there any universities nearby?

    Doesn't the Russian government have something equivalent to the US freedom of information act where you can simply ask them? If it's classified, and it's purpose is military, they should simply say so. Nobody has tried just driving up to the building and reading a freaking sign or walking in the front door and asking the secretary what's up with the beeping? Are there any big gates, checkpoints, or heavy security around it? It sounds like you don't even know that it's a secure government building. Don't they have to acquire a license to broadcast on the frequency that would be registered in a publicly accessible government record?

    In any event, the fact that someone has bothered maintaining nearly 24/7 uptime buzzing for 30 years makes it clear that the primary purpose of this thing could not possibly be voice communication, and that there has to be some critical importance to the buzzer itself. No other "numbers station" AFAIK follows such a weird pattern, and you'd have to be a complete moron to think shortwave radio is in any way discrete. The voice that shows up randomly might be an almost meaningless anomaly. The other sounds sound to me more like interference from conflicting signals than background noise from an open mic... but I don't know much about radio.

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  163. smorg: I think you're correct about the primary purpose being a simple beacon (probably for checking propagation in that portion of the spectrum). Another purpose that now finally has multiple citations listed in the Wikipedia article (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76#Location_and_function ) is for checking alertness of (probably very close) nearby military posts. Finally, I think it's likely, though there's really no source to back me up on it, that it's also serves as a potential backup communication system should other systems fail for whatever reason. Being owned by the gov't, I assume they could always bump up the signal power if necessary.

    And your observation about background noise (voices, and even morse) coming from interference is spot on. That's why 90% of the crap added in the Wikipedia article over the last couple days needed to be removed. There's almost no way to tell for sure, and interference is just part of life in shortwave listening.

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  164. Just to be clear:

    If it was a dead man's switch, it would NOT be the only one... It would be part of a network of switches, set to arm devices. You never have just one. ;)

    That being said... Numbers stations are weird in any case. Not all of them have set patterns, so that's kind of a moot point. Also, the oddest thing about the station is that it was beeping for almost 15 years before the first voice transmission was sent out over the airwaves. Possibly a converted dead man's switch station. That could happen too!

    Finally, the fact that there are better ways of encrypting transmissions and all that jazz doesn't take away the fact that when these stations were built, they were built to last. I'm pretty sure the maintenance of this unit costs less per year than it would to completely renovate and update the building, then buy the new equipment, train people on its use, and maintain THAT.

    (on a REAL final note, smorg, from the little I know of shortwave radio, the noises that are being heard in the background is NOT interference. You need to do some reading on the wiki/google about interference and shortwave radio. You'd know the difference, then. And I'm not being facetious, either... I didn't know until I checked yesterday.)

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  165. How can we be so sure that the first documented message was the first actual message. Back in those days you didnt have the internet and not many had a computer. Im just saying there might be an old chap sitting somewhere that has heard many more of these messages, but had no good way to record them and tell the world about them, at the time they happened.

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  166. UVB-76 was discussed by Russians on a Ham Radio website back in 2004.

    http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radioscanner.ru%2Fforum%2Ftopic12415.html&sl=ru&tl=en

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  167. I just heard some more morse. 3:54pm Eastern US Time. It sounded like "SOS" in morse.

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  168. smorg:

    the freedom of information act doesn't even apply to numbers stations broadcasting from within the united states.

    and good luck walking into this place, enjoy your 25 year siberian vacation.

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  169. I'm hearing a lot going on right now....not sure if its interference or not, but its almost crystal clear.

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  170. Right now i'm listening to some background voices...

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  171. Thanks for the blog. Very interesting.

    I believe the purpose of the station is to communicate with covert operatives. Shortwave radio has the advantage that it can reach anywhere in the world without revealing the location of the intended recipient. All while requiring nothing more than a consumer shortwave receiver.

    That doesn't explain why it transmits the buzzer sound. What if the purpose or the buzzer is a form of source-authentication? Say for instance that the USA discovers an operative and finds the code book used to understand the messages. They might create a fake message in order to fish out other russian spies. The buzzer would protect against this type of counter-intelligence because any fake messages would be superimposed on the buzzer. It only stops for the real messages.

    Your thoughts anyone?

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  172. Yes, i've had reception this evening, at aroung 20:00 CET in Bratislava. Some morse codes, then buzzer sound.

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  173. это просто пиздец, Серега... бред.

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  175. Wow. At 5:44PM EST, my first time listening, I hear morse code, and distinct voices over the buzzing. The buzz drops out a bit on occasion and the morse gets louder. Where's john travolta when you need him? Don't water the marigolds!

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  176. This is their standard testing routine... Bromal, Izafat, Naimina... And more scientific terms as testing words...

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  177. I found this on wikipedia: "At 1631 UTC on August 29, 2010: "the buzzer" stopped and sound of objects being moved and dropped are listenable in the background".
    Is this true? there are some recording about it?

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  178. Background male voices right now. I am recording them. I will make them available online.
    started at 3:07PM EST.

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  179. Ok, for those that are wanting some of my stuff that I've gathered, here it is;

    Todays recording with the male voices clearly heard in the background
    http://customtechnologiesnh.com/uvb-76/uvb76-voices.mp3

    Some of my previous recordings including stuff with morse code and other strange stuff.
    http://customtechnologiesnh.com/uvb-76/uvb76-recordings.rar

    And here are the supposed pictures of the inside of UVB-76 that I got from that blog page before they got taken down
    http://customtechnologiesnh.com/uvb-76/uvb76-pics.rar

    Enjoy all.

    And I still have more stuff that I could upload if wanted.

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  180. @deadlyfoze :

    Thanks. Sadly the pictures are in low resolution I wish that i can obtain a high res from 93F81E6Fd01.gif (and is the map distorted?)

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  181. Never mind, picture 951F520Dd01.gif reveal that the pictures are from a big installation.

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  182. @jorge, that picture was not one that was in the original blog post, but was one that someone else had uploaded.

    Also, all the pics were accidently named .gif's, when they are in fact jpg's. I just reuploaded it with the correct extensions. (not like it will make any difference.

    But yeah, there are like 2 or 3 pics in there that were not part of the original blog post, but were from commenters instead.

    As I said before, I do have reason to believe that these pics are not from the inside of UVB-76, but the original blog poster said they were...but then he got banned and all pics taken down. So that makes me think that they banned him for posting up pics saying that they are one thing when they are really something else.

    Not only that, but if someone is ballsy enough to break into uvb-76, while it is still running and authorized personnel are still regularly going in there, then that person is insane or really stupid, especially being that it is a military building (so we think).

    But as I said in a previous post, the picture where it shows the map of the building for (what I think) is the fire alarm system, it does not match the exact shape of the building. That was the very first thing to clue me in on that these pics might not be of UVB-76, but there is still a chance that they are.

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  183. @deadlyfoze thanks for share that stuff. I will check it soon.
    By the way in this link there are some of mentioned pictures. I think that they are not from UVB-76, but I am not 100% sure.
    http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2010/08/28/inside-the-mysterious-uvb-76-station/
    Greetings from Spain.

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  184. What in the world is that ringing noise I keep hearing in the background? It tends to appear and then disappear. Anyone know what that is?

    То, что в мире является то, что звоном я слышу в фоновом режиме? Она стремится к появляются и исчезают. Каждый знает, что это такое?

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  185. Many of you maybe have noticed that maps services like googlemaps have been removed pictures of UVB-76.

    There is also picture of one narrow road to this area:
    http://www.panoramio.com/photo/31006332#comment

    Comments google translated:
    - There, they say, the day before the radio station for the fourth time in 20 years came to life? It's there beside somewhere? There is speculation that it?

    - Specifically, there is nothing here just to stir !!!!!!!!!!

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  186. Anybody listening in right now 17:18GMT ? and been listening from 16:22 ?
    Heard voices at thse times and inbetween.
    Add me on msn @ st3_porter@hotmail.co.uk

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  187. I can hear sometimes a voice like talking to a close range radio system... This will be the source of the beggining of 3rd world war... carefull !!

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  188. Anyone considered the Russians are reading and are playing with ya? :D Great catch!

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  190. If you want to get your conspiracy hat on, I just set up a forum dedicated to the cause: http://uvb76.mc.id.au/

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  191. @dslme
    I just joined your forum, although I can not post a new thread, and there are no threads available.

    @everyone
    I hope that we find out more about UVB-76 soon. I have many links to many photos and a lot of info. None of it points to the truth. No matter what, UVB-76 looks run down. All pictures that are confirmed as real make the place look like it is abandoned. But we are certainly hearing voices and other things from this station that confirm otherwise.

    The roadway looks like it hasn't been traveled on in years. I wonder if there is an underground network of passageways that allow the russian military to goto this facility without leaving obvious signs of them coming and going while still maintaining that idea that the building could be abandoned.

    We all know that every military tries to be deceiving and tries to hide what they are really doing. UVB-76 is no exception. There is still a lot more that we need to learn. This is a mystery.

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  192. @ Deadly. Do you think it could be connected to the rumored Metro 2 ?

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  193. @swler007
    I have not ever hear of it. Could you please provide a link to some info and I'll look into it. Thank you.

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